Miniguide to Demolish based abilities by antiweltteilchen

Posted: October 5, 2009 in Quelling Blade, Syllabear - The Lone Druid
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Miniguide to Demolish based abilities

used by Quelling Blade & level 4 Spirit Bear. Read to find out how some heroes ‘extra’ benefit out of Quelling Blade. (Some people also call this bug 😛 )

I’ve removed some stuff from his guide which did not relate to DotA and added some stuff that hits mind pretty often. 🙂

Table on contents
  1. Introduction
  2. Skills using demolish
  3. Properties
  4. Interaction with orbs
  5. Interaction with buffplacers
  6. Demolish on Images
  7. Demolish interaction with multi-target attacks
I. Introduction

With the upcoming quelling blade in 6.60 i decided to write this miniguide for you folks so you get a better understanding how it works and use strategical benefits of it.

II. Skills using demolish

quelling blade melee/ranged
spirit bear level 4

III. Properties

It only works on attacks so any triggered damage involved is not increased.

The bonus damage calcs is dependant on our base damage, damage from stats and raw damage boni. In this matter it totally behaves like a critical.

For quelling blade the moment you pick the item up is determining whether it will be a QB ranged or melee. that means switching from melee to ranged form or the other way around won’t change the quelling blade just like the old basher.

At the moment Terrorblade, Syllabear, Troll Warlord and Dragonknight can benefit from that.

You can’t carry more than 1 Quelling blade.

Kunkka is not allowed to wield a Quelling blade.

Allowed targets of quelling blade: enemies,ground,nonhero,organic that means it’ll work versus:
all enemy creeps except catapults
all non-flying neutrals
all enemy summons except hawk/greater hawk

Yes, this means that Quelling Blade will benefit you against Roshan also!

Allowed targets for demolish from spirit bear: enemy,structure …i’ll skip what that means. should be obvious.

IV. Interaction with orbs

When an Orb effect and a Demolish based ability would affect a unit which is an allowed target for both abilities the Orb effect overrides the Demolish skill fully, so no bonus damage. This is always true except for the Orb effect Feedback. This one stacks with demolish (feedback damage isn’t increased).

1.) a hero with quelling blade and sny attacks an enemy creep. -> sny works, quelling doesn’t
2.) a hero with quelling blade and diffusal attacks a neutral with mana pool. -> both abilities work
3.) spirit bear lvl 4 attacks an enemy building -> demolish works because the entangle orb of spiritbear doesn’t have buildings as allowed target.

This means DO NOT buy Quelling Blade on Ursa as his third skill (passive) will override the extra damage effect from QB.

V. Interaction with buffplacers

There is none. as long as it is a pure buffplacer and not an orb it will stack with quelling blade.
worth mentioning here is that criticals are increased multiplicatively by demolish, bashs aren’t

example: i hit an enemy creep with melee QB and a crystalis. Final damage=standard damage*1.32*1.75.

VI. Demolish on Images

It works on images as long as the Images don’t have any orb effect except feedback or lifesteal. the bonus damage by quelling is also reduced by the illusion’s damage dealt factor.

VII. Demolish interaction with multi-target attacks

For most multi-target attacks the maintarget of the attack determines if the demolish based skill affects non or all targets.
This is true for Psiblade, any kind of cleave, any kind of splash, bouncing attack, splitshot. Pulverize based skills (only relevant for Tidehunter here) are independant of the demolish based spell.

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  1. ansh says:

    i hate dota

  2. Phoenix says:

    Just lost a game?

  3. antiweltteilchen says:

    ansh is the name of ability code of shockwave o.o

  4. #3 says:

    #3 i think you need to get out more =]

  5. auheys says:

    #3 i think u need to get out more =]

  6. dalwand says:

    So, this means that if I have a QB, and some kind of cleave, and attack a creep near an opponent hero, the opponent hero gets more damage than if I only have cleave and no QB?

  7. Phoenix says:

    Yes. You understood it correctly. 🙂

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